Sonic Drive-In no longer coming to Cranberry Highway

By Lydia Goerner | Sep 01, 2017
Photo by: Matthew Bernat A Sonic Drive-In was planned to replace Pro-Team Quick Oil Change at the corner of Main Avenue and Cranberry Highway until the application was withdrawn in June.

Burger lovers will have to stick with their usual favorite burger joint for now, as there are no longer plans to add a Sonic Drive-In restaurant to Cranberry Highway.

In April, a Taunton developer filed papers with the Wareham Planning Department, planning to construct a Sonic Drive-In at 3067 Cranberry Highway. However, the application was withdrawn on June 14, according to Planning Board Department Assistant Jasmin Campos.

The developer determined the lot was not large enough to accommodate the traffic they were expecting, Campos said.

The Planning Board has not received an application for another site for the chain restaurant in Wareham.

Comments (21)
Posted by: Warehamlifer | Sep 02, 2017 08:29

Bring it west buddy,we need a restaurant on Tobey rd !!!!!



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 02, 2017 09:37

Tear down the old 99 and setup shop there..



Posted by: Swifts_Sheriff | Sep 02, 2017 14:04

I say tear down one of them Welly motels ...



Posted by: Wareham By The Sea | Sep 02, 2017 20:52

I heard that the real reason why Sonic isn't coming is because they can't find any talented people around here that can roller-skate and hold food at the same time. 

 

The only people that showed up for an interview were Catlyn Coppolino, age 23, Summer Frazier, age 28, Matthew Goodchild, age 31 and Casey Peluso, age 34, who was determined to be intoxicated during the interview.

 

Zachary Perocchi of Lakeside Trailer Park was on his way to the interview but never made it there because he rear ended a Jeep Renegade on his way. 

 

 



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 02, 2017 23:57

It's most likely true, hell they can't even get anyone to work at Wendy's full time let alone a Sonic. If it only weren't for those pesky drug tests..



Posted by: Andrea Smith | Sep 03, 2017 10:03

The problem isn't finding people willing to work full time. The problem is finding companies willing to offer full time employment in an industry that prefers to offer part-time salaries without benefit packages.

 

And before anyone suggests that part time employees enhance their income by working two or three part time jobs...transportation from job to job, scheduling multiple jobs in a world where companies often change employee schedules and number of hours from week to week, and for parents arranging child care based upon the unknowns of schedules from week to week, all create huge problems.



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 03, 2017 10:40

Fair enough Andrea I see your point and you are spot on with your reply. That may be the case with some of the big chain stores and eateries.. But as a whole there are still more jobs than people that want to work, period.



Posted by: Wareham By The Sea | Sep 03, 2017 10:42

Exactly Andrea!  It wasn't too long ago that a person could have a job at a place like a restaurant, supermarket, or retail store that didn't pay too well but offered benefits.  Benefits are a huge plus.  Now, even the big places like Stop & Shop are cutting all part-time hours down to below the minimum required for benefits. Part-time, without benefits only works for kids (under 24) still on their parents insurance or for couples in which the spouse carries the benefits.  It's quite a situation.



Posted by: Society for Suppression of Noise | Sep 04, 2017 23:07

Andrea nailed it.

 

Heck, if I still operated businesses I'd only pay what I had to in order to remain competitive in the labor market.  One of my business mentors had pointed out the difference between a business and a social service agency.

 

Every time I walk into a national chain store, a substandard fast food restaurant (exclusive to Wareham for some reason), or a convenience store, I know that the poor SOB who has to be polite to me is making crap wages and probably has an equally crappy work schedule.  (You choose--take the shift that starts at 6 am or take the second shift that ends at 10 pm.)  Maybe Cranky Pants knows of decent jobs going unfilled but I'm not aware of any that don't pay piss-poor wages and/or involve cleaning up bodily excretions.

 

But Andrea only exposed part of the problem.

 

In my unending search for Little Debbie's Cinnamon Rolls (a rarity unavailable except for individually-packaged units sold only in select convenience stores, it appears) I was forced to overhear a friend of the cashier pouring out her distress over a supposed payroll deposit that was delayed and had resulted in a bounced or delayed payment or some darned thing, and that the fee involved was going to make her short by some piddly amount.  Kinda sad but I wasn't really listening--the important thing was that this particular store did not carry Little Debbie's Cinnamon Rolls.

 

The takeaway for me was that this youngster was trying to make her own way, trying to earn her keep, trying to do things right by working to earn her money in order to pay her bills, and our culture has stacked the deck against her.  Crap wages, crap schedules, and sky-high housing costs.  One can skimp on expenses, even on meals, but the cost of having a simple roof over ones head is more than one can earn while working full-time (or working two part-time jobs) at low-end wages.  Check the classifieds on this site--the only rental advertised is $1200 a month.  (Not long ago a room was advertised for just $800 a month.)

 

"For every 100 extremely low-income families who rent, there are just 29 affordable units available in the marketplace..."  "...according to the Urban Institute, 62 percent of new housing demand will be rental during this decade (2010-2019)."  Good for slumlords but no help for the poor girl working at a local coffee shop, thinking she's doing the right thing.

http://charlotte.uli.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2015/03/JRT-Paper-Housing-3-18.pdf

 

Are there solutions?  Of course there are.  Will we ever see them implemented in Wareham?  Not a chance.



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 05, 2017 07:21

I'd love to think if the cost of health care wasn't so astronomically crazy that this situation would be avoidable..

Should we blame Obama ?



Posted by: Andrea Smith | Sep 05, 2017 11:34

Cranky - Perhaps greed, an attitude of profits before people, out of control annual executive and CEO bonuses...



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Sep 05, 2017 12:30

Not every job is a career. If you don't make enough money find a different job. If there are no jobs, go to where they are, you will find them. If you don't like what people are paying then start your own business and pay more.



Posted by: Andrea Smith | Sep 05, 2017 16:22

Sphere - If everyone lived in your overly simplified world your suggestions might work.



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Sep 05, 2017 23:33

Nothing complicated about getting a job. There are plenty out there. If you want t blame someone about all the part time jobs ok no further than Obama and anyone that voted for him. Obamacare has been the worst thing possible for the American worker. Many full time jobs with benefits were lost when business was forced into changing these jobs into part time to survive. This is Obama 1000%



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 06, 2017 07:24

Right on Sphere ! Finally, someone that gets it.

I'm not sure what town you people live in, but I've seen over 25 help wanted signs all over Wareham. Jobs from machine shops, delivery drivers, moving companies to manufacturing and textiles.. They're out there, you just gotta look and maybe have some drive. Sure, some jobs may require skills, but quite a few are for entry level. Of course this all would involve effort and initiative, something that's hard to do if you're already being handed freebies. The job market isn't as dead as people are trying to make it seem.

When all else fails, someone being paid to deal with bodily fluids or excrement sounds better than someone sitting on a doorstep somewhere enjoying life from my pocket. Maybe some of the readers here don't mind paying for people with excuses, but I do.



Posted by: Andrea Smith | Sep 06, 2017 11:41

Cranky and Sphere - If everyone lived in your overly simplified world there wouldn't even be a reason for this debate.



Posted by: cranky pants | Sep 06, 2017 12:00

Andrea, with all due respect.. We can agree to disagree.

Life is what you make of it. If you're living a chaotic and complicated lifestyle I do apologize. My world isn't simple, I simply choose to make it easy.

So please stop with the " overly simplified world " crap.. Let's strive to make a difference together.



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Sep 06, 2017 12:21

Its easy to see the world and its problems as "simplified" when you utilize common sense and disregard all the BS throw in to distract people from getting to solutions.



Posted by: Andrea Smith | Sep 06, 2017 14:58

Cranky - The only way some will ever understand the difficulties of those who struggle with part time employment issues and/or the difficulties of affording life's necessities despite working full time minimum or near minimum wage jobs, would be to:

 

1)  live the lives of those they criticize for a month or two

 

2) work in an industry which offered them an opportunity to get to personally know those who struggle with issues related to part time and low income employment

 

3) volunteer for a charity that helps to service the needs of those they criticize.

 

My lifestyle has never been nor is it now chaotic or complicated. But I have been blessed by experiencing the opportunities mentioned in #2 and #3 above. Those experiences in combination with  the examples of compassion and understanding that life and faith has set before me have given me my perspective.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Sep 06, 2017 19:33

Andrea, I too have lived both 1 and 2 and participate in 3. I know what its like to grow up with little with both parents working multiple jobs to make what ever meager ends meet. They did what they had to. Earlier in my life i  worked on the bogs hand picking the ditch areas after water picking was done getting paid by the box to make things better for my young family. I did side jobs and any other work I would find. That was after working a fulll day at my other job. I did what had to be done. I know that there are jobs out there and if you do what you need to do you can make ends meet.  Nobody said its easy, nbobody said its fun. What it is , is personal responsibility and doing your part to earn you keep in society. Low paying part time jobs aren't new, they have always been there. Today everyone want immediate reward and arent willing to put in the hard work. Its insulting to me, my parents and anyone else that did do what they needed to to make things better for themselves. I have no pity for someone that wont do what they need to. There is no excuse with all the jobs available, none.



Posted by: Wareham By The Sea | Sep 07, 2017 01:20

This dialogue is good to see among you guys.  Andrea, I like how you list the three scenarios.

 

#1 is basically the idiom "walk a mile in someone's shoes".  It makes sense.  I have never actually traded places with someone but I often observe others and have come to the conclusion that any able-body can do what it takes to make a buck.  I use the term able-body because certainly those with real disabilities or those caring for a loved one with real disabilities will have challenges.  That's an entirely different story.  Any able-body willing to break a sweat can make a heck of a lot more than minimum wage.  Going rate for a laborer is $20 an hour.  I'm talking non-union, common laborer.  A union laborer is a rather darn good job that pays better than anyone ever imagines.  Anyone willing to dig, mix plaster/concrete, carry bricks/lumber, etc can make 20 bucks an hour or more.  Many very able bodies choose to sit around and complain and collect even though that kind of work is everywhere.  many strapping, fit, young guys in the perfect 18 - 40 age range are lazy and have every excuse in the book as to why they don't have a job.

 

#2 is something I know too well.  I see those that struggle all the time.  I work with some and I see them around our town. Many struggle because they make poor decisions.  Here's a couple examples of what I see that drives me crazy about those that claim to struggle.  My wife and I are both educated professionals.  We have good jobs.  Every morning we brew our Maxwell house in the trusty Mr. Coffee that we bought for $12 at Bennys.  As I drive to work with my travel mug containing what cost me 3 cents to brew, I see the same unemployed/underemployed characters everyday, carrying those 4 pack trays with 4 giant Dunkins, back to wherever they plan to hang around all morning.  The 4 Dunkins in that tray cost more than a Mr. Coffee coffeemaker at Benny's and a pound of Maxwell House from Shaws!

 

Same story with my struggling coworkers that don't make much money and always cry poor.  I pack a lunch.  When I eat my roast beef with romaine wrap that cost me 67 cents to make,  they run out to Wendys, Subway, etc. everyday and spend at least $8 every day.  Oh, yea, they too have a big Dunkin every morning just like the ones I see on the way to work.  Oh yea, many of them smoke.  So lets add this up.  $5 cup of coffee plus an $8 footlong combo plus a $10 pack of butts = $22 a day x 7 days = $154 a week x 52 weeks = $8000 per year!    And they cry poor and say they can't afford a car.  $8000 buys an ok used car.   That's just those indiscretions.  I haven't mentioned poor food shopping choices, expensive clothing, stupid expensive sneakers. expensive cellphones, unnecessary entertainment, booze, and all the other frivolous things that are done with poor judgement.  What is it with the sneakers? Folk without a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of are walking around in $200 Nike Jordans...that's just stupid.

 

Here's a heavy topic that plays into this a lot more than coffee or sneakers; what about family planning? The birds and the bees in my yard don't make baby birds and baby bees without good solid nests & hives, but for some reason, struggling people like to add baby humans to their struggling situations. That's enough on the family planning topic for tonight...definitely could be a slippery slope!

 

#3...It's getting late and I typed more than I thought so I'll keep #3 quick. I agree.  As long as it is something like a mission with church to a poor country, a mission to somewhere that the poverty is severe like Appalachia, or to Texas to help with the hurricane.  I'd have a hard time helping the poor around here due to my points in #1 and #2.  I'd show up with my travel mug full of 3 cents worth coffee and a brown bag with my 67 cent roast beef wrap to help a dude holding a big $5 Dunkin, an $8 foot long, and a $10 pack of butts. Then again, if I could get past that irony, I could teach them budgeting, smart shopping, financial planning, and maybe even family planning...well, maybe just the first three...good night!



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