GOP tax bill shows 'unbearable selfishness'

Dec 18, 2017

To the Editor:

On Dec. 17, Congressman Bill Keating came to Wareham to speak with the Wareham Democratic Town Committee at Bailey’s Restaurant. More than 40 local people attended. Keating spoke extensively about the tax bill that the Republicans are proposing.

One of the dangers that he spoke of was that if the tax bill passes, the next step the Republicans are talking about is an attack on Medicare and Medicaid. Half of the people in nursing homes are there under these programs. Forty percent of American children are covered under these programs. What would happen to these citizens? The justification for reducing these programs is that we could not afford them. But we couldn't afford them because the Republicans gave the money to the richest people in this tax bill.

This tax bill shows such unbearable selfishness. The note of hope is the growing convergence of groups that are ready to RESIST. People will be marching in many locations on Jan. 20. If you hate the damage that the Republicans are doing to our country, join us.

Kate Furler

Comments (36)
Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 18, 2017 12:38

Eight years you slouches had to reform taxes and did nothing but raise them and kill economy. Look at your 401k since Trump. Kate you have not a clue. Resist all you want, once the economy goes takes off like a rocket due to reform your sorry propaganda party is over.



Posted by: Davidsgirl | Dec 18, 2017 16:41

You're almost right Kate except it's not a tax bill it's a wealth redistribution plan. What little wealth the 99% have will be syphoned off and given to the 1% . The insurance market will become even more destabilized which is a guarantee of higher insurance costs for all of us in 2018. The rich will become richer and we will continue to be their slaves. Many will March on the 20th including me and many of our neighbors but if Mueller is fired you can find out here where and when to protest www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org

 

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Posted by: bob | Dec 18, 2017 20:30

KATE,Did the Congressman pay for your meal...



Posted by: harrythebarber | Dec 18, 2017 22:59

Did they hand out Pink Pussy Hats at the meeting?



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 19, 2017 07:25

Mueller is a corrupt tool and the investigation and accusations are a sham developed by the real enemy of the USA, the Democrat party. Proof of this is coming out now from texts between corrupt FBI operatives for the corrupt Democrat party. The swamp is draining slowly but surely and the Democrats are being exposed for what they are as traps are sprung. MAGA!



Posted by: Phredzzz | Dec 19, 2017 08:20

Bill Keating spewed FAKE NEWS to the FAKE MEDIA and whoever else would listen, got sucked into the RESIST Movement. I heard what he said and 90% of his words are just Left-Wing, I love Taxes BS. Welcome to the Commie Socialist Bernie Sanders Club Ms Furler; you are just one more Sucker who can't understand the true facts about the new Tax Act.



Posted by: Uptohere | Dec 19, 2017 12:47

Kate, have you even read the tax bill? Its doubtful Keating has a clue what' he' talking about except trying to keep taxpayer money in his own pockets and out of yours.



Posted by: OnsetTogether | Dec 20, 2017 00:15

"Trickle down" never gets down to the working men and women. Voodoo economics revisits us, and our working poor, elderly and children will again be the worst hit. Mark this day as the death knell of what's left of the middle class in America.



Posted by: sadie | Dec 20, 2017 08:16

wow just wow, can't people agree to disagree so much hostility



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 20, 2017 09:09

Not when the letter is full of inaccurate statements, attacks and seditious activity. Commies will be called out.

 



Posted by: desertsky | Dec 20, 2017 09:31

Most of what I read here is personal opinion. Many of you have the facts just plain wrong. It is evident you don't understand the tax bill in it's entirety (who does?!) and are "cherry picking" random lines that you are interpreting your own way. Feel free to express your personal attitudes here (that's what this forum is for) but the lack of factual information and over- stated "facts" (term used loosely) make reading these comments a big chuckle. It would be refreshing to see comments by people who actually understand the political policies instead of those just repeating that "the sky is falling...." etc etc.



Posted by: SandyKenney | Dec 20, 2017 09:47

Thank you for your post Kate, I was surprised at the comments because there are a lot of republicans who agree that we just gave too much money to corporations and the wealthy in this tax bill. #notonepenney We the middleclass taxpayers will pay for these cuts. We can’t spend a trillion more dollars without it coming from spending somewhere else. Spherebreaker forgot that Obama was busy fixing the mess that was left from the previous administration. He didn’t raise taxes we received stimulus checks and the economy improved. Our 401k’s are doing well because they show the stock markets anticipation of more wealth coming their way. The wealthy are super excited today. As far as these other odd comments, Bob, why would a congressman buy 40 people a meal? We donate to their campaigns. HarryTheBarber are you talking about the hats made famous by mocking the president’s comments on the ET bus? No, we had elves hats. Also, Spherebreaker mentions his mistrust of the Mueller investigation which is unfortunate, trump wants us to trust no one except him. I have faith in the FBI, CIA and other agencies to do the right thing. Many republicans support the investigation along with Dems and independents. Phredzzz thinks us Democrats joined the communist? It’s trump that only has kind words for Putin and is not worried about future election interference by him. He wants to rule us like Putin rules Russia. Another funny statement was from Uptohere “have you read the tax bill? Really? Who has? The bill written in a back room with no open discussion or debate. This isn’t how government by the people for the people is supposed to work. The tax bill gives money to people that do not need anymore and pulls the spine out of health insurance. Terrible. Terrible.



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 20, 2017 10:31

"We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it" said Pelosi of the worlds biggest boondoggle know as Obamacare. Trump says nothing of the sort yet every demoncrat states its the end of the world before its even passed and have done so for weeks. How can this be if its such a backroom deal? Demoncrats had every oppourtunity to join the discussion but chose not too. Instead they chose sedition. As for 401Ks, Mine is up 22% since the election and it was doing nothing under Obama, nothing. Obama didn't fix crap, he was decimating the middle class so he can expand the dependent class. Mueller is corrupt and so is Rosenstein, everyday the light is finding its way into the corruption crevices  Obama and his cronies installed. The swamp creatures will dry up like tadpoles in an July puddle.



Posted by: WantToSeeChange | Dec 20, 2017 12:11

Well the Dow was at 9345 (Jan 2009) when Obama took office and was at 20197 (Dec 2016) when he left, but I guess that is "nothing" to some people.



Posted by: sweetie | Dec 20, 2017 15:43

Thank you Kate for the information about the March.  Though there seems to be a few experts on this bill responding, I doubt anyone truly understands the entirety of the bill.  A few Republican senators admitted they didn't read the entire 500+ page bill. I guess we will find out just what it really entails, as time goes on. Also there is to much blame about one party over the other party.  There are many wonderful people from both parties. This appears to be a "responsible vs irresponsible" issue. Those who are "responsible" care for others, especially the vulnerable.Everyone matters. While the "Irresponsible" care about themselves and how much they can profit.

 

 



Posted by: Doctor Deekas | Dec 20, 2017 15:49

To add to the 'facts' of the conversation - I find it ironic that people would be up in arms about adding $1 trillion (debatable, it could be as low as $400billion) to the deficit of $18.9 TRILLION that we ALREADY HAVE! Every year, the government has spend much more than they collected, and truthfully, most of it goes into our defense spending on a yearly basis. Somehow, the US Deficit is NOW political, but it wasn't 12 months ago? Get off the soapbox about adding to the debt - I wouldn't mind less taxes taken out of my paycheck, I don't know why you would complain - unless you were on Social Security which will probably see no change (and that's awful in my opinion). In addition, right here in good 'ol democratic Massachusetts, we also have a State deficit of $1 BILLION. But guess what? We all voted to reduce the MA State income tax on the ballot a few years ago to get it back to the 5.3% that it was before they raised it. So, we are just as 'guilty' as our Congress when it comes to raising the deficit to keep some money in our pockets, right here in Taxachusetts.



Posted by: greycat | Dec 20, 2017 21:31

I see a few folks missed history, economics and civics in school.  Maybe they didn't teach it because they didn't want you to know.  Tax cuts invariably generate more revenue for the government, as shown by history and economics.  Members of Congress rarely read complete bills.  They don't have time.  They rely on the opinions of their staff and lobbyists who shower them with money. The poor do not own companies where people have jobs.  The federal government spends almost twice as much on social programs like Medicare, Social Security and health care subsidies than it does on the #1 responsibility of the federal government...NATIONAL DEFENSE.  Our military needs to be strong, but it does not need to be fighting wars all over the globe just to keep weapons manufacturers in business.  The biggest lobbying effort in Washington is not defense or the NRA or the AARP.  It is aimed at the tax code, where virtually every line on the 1040 form has a special interest group behind it, for special favors or statistical information.

Stop guessing!  Get educated and informed!  Abandon Socialism.  It does not work.

 

 



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 21, 2017 09:54

Companies announcing today that they are providing employees bonuses, investing in capital improvements and hiring employees due to Tax reform. I hope the demoncrats continue to "Resist". They are fools for doing so and will be fools when they are voted out on their sorry butts



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 21, 2017 09:54

Keating should be the first to go



Posted by: sadie | Dec 21, 2017 12:42

greycat you make it sound like Medicare, Social Security are handouts. I am a senior and paid into social security my entire WORKING life. are you saying I should not receive social security because you thing think it is "social" program implying it is a hand out. Should all the seniors be thrown off Social Security and Medicare? Should widows not be allowed to receive Social Security?

 



Posted by: WantToSeeChange | Dec 21, 2017 12:54

Sphere, which companies are doing these things?



Posted by: greycat | Dec 21, 2017 13:24

Social Security and Medicare ARE partial handouts.  We all paid into them, but we are all getting more out of them than we put in.  These programs are slowly eating away a larger portion of the Federal Budget.  There are no easy answers, but a few things, like raising the retirement age, requiring Social Security taxes on all income brackets, not cut off like they are now, increasing the Medicare tax and cutting the fraud in these programs would help.  But, you have to get congress to put any additional funds into these programs instead of giving the money away to solar panel manufacturers just to get a few votes.



Posted by: sadie | Dec 21, 2017 13:27

If the people we elected had kept that money in a separate fund instead of constantly raiding it we would be in fine shape and have more than we need.



Posted by: greycat | Dec 21, 2017 13:30

The present cutoff for Social Security taxes is $127,200.00 for 2017.  No taxes on anything over that.  I wonder why?



Posted by: sadie | Dec 21, 2017 13:39

greycat    "For nearly three decades, the system took in far more revenue than it paid out in benefits; the surplus was invested in special non-tradeable Treasury bonds, with interest credited to the system’s two trust funds (one for old-age and survivors’ benefits, the other for disability payments). As of July 31, those trust funds together held $2.83 trillion in Treasuries"

We have enough money until 2020 and then they can START using these funds, why do they keep saying we are out of money do they want to spend this money somewhere else?



Posted by: Phredzzz | Dec 22, 2017 07:27

 

 

NEWSAfter Historic Tax Bill Passed Congress ATT Announced $200 Million Bonus Plan For Employees

 

DECEMBER 20, 2017

Pessimists doubtful of the impact of President Trump’s tax overhaul claimed the money companies would save would be funneled to share holders and not spent on growth. Yet hours after the bill’s final passage, news is breaking that corporations may have other ideas in mind. AT&T hasu announced it will give $1,000 bonuses to more than 200,000 of its employees. And others are following suit.

 

“If the President signs the bill before Christmas, employees will receive the bonus over the holidays,” the statement from AT&T read.

 

President Donald Trump cheered the news. “And that’s because of what we did. That’s pretty good,” Trump said. “That’s pretty good.”

 

AT&T’s CEO, Randall Stephenson, was optimistic about the tax cuts. They “will drive economic growth and create good-paying jobs,” he said.  In addition to the bonuses, the company will increase capital investments.

 

“Speaking at an Economic Club of New York lunch in late November,” Yahoo News reports, “Stephenson said that if tax reform passed they would spend at least $1 billion and create an estimated 7,000 jobs.”

 

“From my standpoint,” Stephenson said, “the driver of this is the business tax reform… if we get investment going, we get productivity going, we get wage gain going, we invest another billion dollars. Every billion dollars AT&T invests is 7,000 hard hat jobs. These are not entry-level jobs. These are 7,000 jobs of people putting fiber in ground, hard hat jobs that make $70,000 to $80,000 per year.”

 

“I cannot overstate how important I think a tax bill that makes the US corporate taxes a competitive regime around the world — that’s big. That’s significant,” he said.

 

“You are freed up to invest more capital,” he added. “We have so many initiatives and projects that we would like to invest more in.

 

And AT&T aren’t the only ones. Boeing is getting in on the investment game. The company tweeted Wednesday that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will free-up $300 million for “employee-related and charitable investment.”

 

“On behalf of all of our stakeholders, we applaud and thank Congress and the administration for their leadership in seizing this opportunity to unleash economic energy in the United States,” Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg said. “It’s the single-most important thing we can do to drive innovation, support quality jobs and accelerate capital investment in our country.”

 

“For Boeing, the reforms enable us to better compete on the world stage and give us a stronger foundation for the investment in innovation, facilities and skills that will

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Posted by: Davidsgirl | Dec 22, 2017 11:28

LOL these corporations love it when you are happy with the bones they throw you and it makes them even happier when you try to convince other people to be happy with bones and don't bother to look at the big picture. Continue on working as slaves for greedy ultra wealthy people they love that the most.



Posted by: OnsetTogether | Dec 22, 2017 11:35

Greycat has nothing to worry about, see my post outlining the exceptionally generous package we pay for at Onset Fire and Water District https://onsettogether.blogspot.com/2017/12/follow-up-data-for-onset-fire-department.html.  I actually did study Economics and History, I have the diplomas to prove it, and there is nothing "invariable" about trickle-down policy.  Only 14% of Americans are directly invested in the stock market, and of those over 95% are in the "1%." Just mark your calendar today with your net worth, and revisit that on January 1, 2021. Count the number of foreclosures in MA alone on this date and that date. Mark down the unemployment rate, the real one not the one that makes people who gave up the job search just "disappear." Note the inflation rates. Come back in 2021 and present your empirical evidence.

Are Wareham schools suddenly going to have money to invest with this Christmas miracle? Is your employer doling out raises and hiring new full-time staff with benefits? Are the college students in your family overwhelmed with job offers for May? Does it affect you that you can no longer deduct your state income tax (paying twice) nor home equity line of credit? These are the things that affect the majority of working class Americans. The corporate titans have always been able to avoid both corporate and personal income tax and now it's even easier for them.



Posted by: Phredzzz | Dec 22, 2017 12:05

Hey Onsettogether. Not to knock your education credentials but maybe you should ask for some of your tuition money to be refunded. "Trickle-Down" is NOT even accepted terminology in the Economic world. "Trickle-Down" is a made up word by the Media and disenchanted Politicians who hated Ronald Reagans successes.  The real words which define similar but not exactly the same Economic Principals are "Supply-Side Economics". Supply-Side Economics is a respected Principal which is taught in every Business Degree Program around the world.



Posted by: Davidsgirl | Dec 22, 2017 12:38

LOL that's right, those ultra rich greedy people will suddenly see the light and stop hoarding their cash and start handing it out once they realize that it actually means supply-side economics.



Posted by: OnsetTogether | Dec 22, 2017 13:26

I didn't really think we needed to get into macro-economic theory and the Laffer Curve here Phredzzz, but we could. The first reference to trickle-down economics came from Will Rogers, who used it to derisively describe President Herbert Hoover’s stimulus efforts during the Great Depression. I have degrees in Economics and Labor Relations, not "business."

Oddly enough whether supply side (tax cuts) or demand side (subsidies) it is all government intervention in the market, which conservatives pretend to hate (when it isn't in their favor) and by definition eliminates a free market. Merry Christmas.

 

 



Posted by: barnstorm | Dec 22, 2017 13:46

Doctor Deekas.....you're  way off on the Commonwealth's debt number. Massachusetts is $76 billion in the red according to the last audit in 2015! That comes to $11,379 per every man, woman & child..........we are #1 among  all the other 50 states in the nation. Rhode Island is a close 2nd place. Something Bill Keating and his Democratic cohorts should all to be proud of.  Liberals.......the champions of unfunded liabilities. We thank you so much!



Posted by: Phredzzz | Dec 26, 2017 07:30

Back to ONSETTOGETHER: your semi attempt at humor with the Laffer-Curve statement almost justifys your "But" comment. Will Rogers was NOT really known for his modern era Economist writings, but was a wonderul writer of humor. As good as he was, he often was found guilty of camandeering lingo from other writers and enhancing those words for his own personal wants and needs. If you want to go down the road of He-said, She-said, we could eassily end up with a similarity of statements going back to the Dark Ages.With that being said, I was simplifying the statement about Ronald Reagan Media hysteria to make a point about the current Mass hysteria being displayed against Mr. Trump. Reagan was criticized for everything from his Star-Wars Technology statements, to his Tear down the WALL Statement, And especially his Economy Statements. Fast forward to the current Trump Era, and it is almost a duplicate scenario with the Trump Haters and Mass Media distortions. We all know how time has proven to be most favorable for Mr. Reagan,  so my point is for you never-Trumpers out there, be careful or you could eassily raise Mr. Trumps reputation to one of Cult-Hero Status. That Hater mentality stuff has a way of Backfiring and burning those with the contagious disease of Trumphobia. Just ask Hillary, Bernie, and the establishment Republican Party!



Posted by: Davidsgirl | Dec 28, 2017 14:36

There are days I feel real sympathy for people who support this train wreck of an administration. I can only assume that this is not the first really horrible person that they've put their faith in. Then I remember the sexism, the racism, the ugly hatred of the LGBTQ community and Muslims, the utter disregard for the most vulnerable in our society, the sick and the poor and then I don't feel bad at all because being blind to these things doesn't make you dumb it makes you a horrible person. 



Posted by: OnsetTogether | Dec 28, 2017 20:11

PHREDZZZ no humor intended, the Laffer Curve is a real supply-side economic theory, generally discredited by reality and learned academics in the past 40 years but beloved by Trump.



Posted by: Spherebreaker | Dec 29, 2017 16:13

Not once here did i ever here what a horrible person Trump was before he was a candidate, not once. Democrats are nothing but a pompous donkeys that cry when the don't get their own way. Take your comments and shove it, WE DONT GIVE A FLYING HOOT WHAT THE HOOT YOU SAY YOU HOOTIN MORON!



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